Why Support Udinese?
By: vin | August 3rd, 2008
Alright. First things first: No, I didn’t get lost on my way to the AS Roma blog. Believe it or not, I’m here on purpose.
At this point, the few who recognize my name might be wondering, “why the hell is a Giallorossi supporter blogging about the Zebrette?”
Hmmm… Well, that IS a valid question, so I’d like to at least try to give you an equally valid answer, because I know that it’s not enough to just say that “if the Giallorossi didn’t exist (Heaven forbid!) I’d get behind Udinese ’cause they sometimes remind me of Roma.”
Yeah… I’m guessing that you’re probably looking for a more substantial reason than that. Well, if that’s the case, I guess it’s good that I actually have a few more reasons for supporting Udinese, and maybe… just maybe, these reasons will get you to don the zebra stripes yourself, if haven’t already.
So… why support Udinese? Allow me to tell you:
Reason #5:
Dudes who can turn on a dime and score from outside the stadium before you can say “holy s**t” aren’t easy to come by, but lo and behold, Udinese has one.
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Reason #4:
Christmas happened 17 times last season, and it he can easily happen even more times this time around.
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Reason #3:
Simple math indicates that Reason #4 + Reason #5 = pure, unadulterated calcio bliss.
There truly must be something special about Stadio Friuli… or at least, I like to believe that there is. The very fact that Udine were able to keep both Quagliarella and Di Natale through this mercato (knock on wood, as it isn’t quite over yet) has gone a long way toward keeping me from losing my faith in calcio. While it’s true that we don’t know for sure why neither widely sought-after player has jumped ship, I’d like to imagine that it has something to do with a strong sense of belonging and an even stronger sense of commitment – both of which have been rare in calcio as of late. Whatever the reason(s), the fact of the matter is that Strike Force Udinese lives on -intact- to play another season, and that’s friggin’ awesome.
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Reason #2:
Actually, come to think of it, they do remind me of Roma.
Did someone order the antithesis of catenaccio with a side of balls-out attack? Make no mistake, as much as this is Marino’s team, this used to be Spalletti’s team… and it shows, as neither coach is content to sit back and defend. If you like exciting calcio at all, watch Udinese go to work and you’ll be impressed… and if you’ve ever seen the Giallorossi play, you’ll witness a healthy dose of their trademark fast-forward ball movement peppered with an occasional cobra-quick strike from nowhere. Nothing is more effective at getting tifosi to go wild, or getting the opposition to soil their pants.
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Reason #1:
These guys make Inter sweat, and if that doesn’t make them worthy of support, I don’t know what does.
Recent history provides us with proof:
2007-2008
- August 26, 2007: Inter 1 – 1 Udinese
- January 27, 2008: Udinese 0 – 0 Inter
2006-2007
- October 22, 2006: Udinese 0 – 0 Inter
- February 28, 2007: Inter 1 – 1 Udinese
How many Serie A clubs can claim that Inter could not beat them once in either season? How ’bout NONE? For that matter, only two teams (Samp in ‘06-’07 and Juve in ‘07-’08) went unbeaten by Inter in one of the two last seasons.
So… yeah. They DO make Inter sweat, but they also put the other “big” clubs through their paces as well. Last campaign, Udinese’s record against the top four Serie A squads was an evenly balanced 3-2-3, with a respectable goal difference of -1. Udine scored 10 while the top four scored 11, collectively. Point being, Udinese’s seventh place finish was not the result of stomping out struggling squads exclusively; to the contrary, when this team’s playing to its full potential, they can and will challenge anyone… and with that in mind, I think we’ll see an even better finish from this Udinese team in 2008-2009.
Forza Zebrette!
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MAD, we can at least give it a chance…
Then if things go south we can say our peace.
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Alessandro I dont know how you do it/did it, and I give you tons of credit. My family is from Naples, I went to abroad for a year in Perugia, spent time in London and the only consistent thing has and always will be my love for the Rossoneri. I love all calcio and will watch any game in the world, but my pride goes for one team.
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Gian, I have read his blogs. I have read stuff from the Roma things. I think I know what we Inter folks are in for. More attacks. More unsubstantiated rumors. More lies spread as truth. More insults to the fans. More “funny” pictures. More fanaticism. More updates on the hairstyles of players as if it matters.
In short, more of the same.
Yawn.
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VIN let the haters drink haterade.
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MAD i believe you are one of the ones preeching against personal attacks in posts, but some of your statements above such as , “Thank you very much “sensei vin”… our very own blackbelt in Bullshitzu”, or “Jeez, I can answer that. You’ll cover that like a little Roma fanboy. And if history is any guide, and it is, it’ll be done poorly.” sound an aweful lot to me like a personal attack. I mean come on, what complaint do you honestly have to be getting your panties all up in a bundle??? If you dont like it dont f*ckin read it, its that simple. Peronally i have a deep seated hatred for Inter, but have you ever seen me on the god damned inter blog spewing hate speech like you are right now???? NO!!! So do everyone in Serie A a favor and get a couple italians on your god damned squad then come back and talk calcio……
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and folks newsflash it is possible to have a spirited debate on a vast variety of topics including calcio without being complete jackass’s about it……. Then what pisses me off most is the fact that people like MAD (Interista or not), come on here and bash not only vin’s blog, but his ability to write, “it’ll be done poorly” without even giving it a chance, I mean come on folks show some god damned class, and then to the skeptics out there who are at least giving it a chance and contributing to the conversation, THANKS, you should know who you are……
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“MAD i believe you are one of the ones preeching against personal attacks in posts, but some of your statements above such as…”
–Actually, no. I don’t preach against anything. I just wanted to be left alone to discuss Inter, calcio and stuff on the Inter Blog. But I usually can’t get that thanks to you people.
–How interesting of you to point out the fact that I am engaging in a personal attack and how bad that is, when a person above engaged in same and yet you say nothing. So I should censor myself, but no one else should. Yes, i can see that making sense. If one were a hypocrite.“I mean come on, what complaint do you honestly have to be getting your panties all up in a bundle???”
–My panties remain unbundled. I am merely pointing out an observation that I have witnessed over time.
“If you dont like it dont f*ckin read it, its that simple.”
–Although I would characterize this order that is given to command my actions as arrogant and out of line, I think that I will say that I will do as I fuckin want. Thanks.
“Peronally i have a deep seated hatred for Inter, but have you ever seen me on the god damned inter blog spewing hate speech like you are right now???? NO!!!”
–Good for you. If you root for Roma, you are in the minority. There have been attacks by you folks on the Inter Blog that average once every two weeks. I wasn’t talking to you now, but you have decided that you are going to get in my face, hypocritically. So in reality, you are doing just the same as the rest. No surprise.
“So do everyone in Serie A a favor and get a couple italians on your god damned squad then come back and talk calcio”
–Well, as long as YOU say so. I mean, as long as everyone does what YOU want, I guess all will be right with the world, huh? And I guess as long as i behave the way YOU want, the Universe will be saved, uh?
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Just wanted to be left alone on the inter blog??? You know what, maybe certain roma fans do troll onto the inter blog “on average once every two weeks”, but lets be honest does someone saying something you dont like on the inter blog once every two weeks really affect your enjoyment of it??? Now lets take a look at something, you condemn them for trolling once every two weeks, but lets take a look at a little of your recent history…
1. “Jeez, I can answer that. You’ll cover that like a little Roma fanboy. And if history is any guide, and it is, it’ll be done poorly.” August 3rd, UDINESE BLOG
2.”Thank you very much “sensei vin”… our very own blackbelt in Bullshitzu” August 3rd, Udinese BLOG
3.”So I should censor myself, but no one else should. Yes, i can see that making sense. If one were a hypocrite.” August 3rd, UDINESE BLOG
4. “Apparently the fames Roma reading ability has struck again” August 1st, ROMA BLOG
-doesnt make a lot of sense but i think hes mocking romes reading ability….5.”You think that this is a personal attack because your so blinded by your own insular-ness.” August 1st, ROMA BLOG
6. “Although the Italian media has been criticizing the preparations Chievo have been making for the 2008/2009 season but the results speak for themselves.”
–No matter how many times I read this sentence it gives me the giggles. This is good stuff.
“Not a respected team but I did not catch this stunner unfortunately but it is good to read the results.”
–Although, this one was pretty good too.
–Keep it up. It definitely brightens my dayAugust 3rd, CHIEVO BLOG
7. “This ought to be highly entertaining if the Boricua comments were anything to go by” August 1st, CHIEVO BLOG
8. “keep waiting for it to turn BACK into Roma 2A but I don’t think I see a mention of Roma in the actual blog above…. No mention of their hair styles as if it were interesting news… No mention of the tiniest, teeniest Roma triviality as if it was interesting or the only thing that mattered…” August 1st, SERIE A BLOG
9. “I also thought I just saw a giant picture of Rome not too long ago when I accidently clicked the league button. I remember thinking… “Oh, there’s a fucking surprise, at least their not trying to play innocent anymore.”
It’s almost a little creepy to be here and not laughing at my desk like a psycho at what the blogger wrote”
August 1st, SERIE A BLOG10. “or give the Roma infestation a chance to come on here and ruin your blog by giving them something to get defensive and insecure over” July 23rd, FIORENTINA BLOG
11. “SO WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM, ASS?” July 23rd, FIORENTINA BLOG
and lets be honest the list goes on and on, but i got tired of looking up instances. I mean i really dont understand what your crusade against roma and the romanista on this board is about(unless you got dumped by a romanista, then id be pissed too) to the point that you need to spew it across every offside blog….
Now MAD I have been called many things in my life ranging from “Candyass” by my high school basketball coach to “a fuckstick” by a girl in one of my high school classes, but hypocrisy is an entirely new expirience. I suppose you could have construed some of my above comments such as “i dont know why your panties are all in a bundle” or “If you dont like it dont f*ckin read it, its that simple” as personal attacks, but i must say considering the latter is commonly used by my grandmother, and the former although haughty in tone hardly qualifies as a personal attack, i must deem your hypothesis regarding my hypocratic statements incorrect. Now in terms of statements made by others, i believe that was between gianfranco and samson, and just like you have so graciously proved that i cant control your speech, I cant control theirs either no matter what i think of it.
And yes MAD you have every right to say whatever you want, and im not trying to control what you say, but there is such a thing as common courtesy and i think the world would be a lot better off if it was practiced a little more often.
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Gianfranco, while I appreciate your one-squad loyalty, I don’t think calcio is black and white… but I do acknowledge that some see it that way. For instance, a few of the Roma followers weren’t too thrilled with the signing of Riise, (since he’s from Liverpool) and they’re upset to even see him in a yellow/red shirt. Meanwhile, others are willing to give the guy a shot and let bygones be bygones *this time.* I tend to side with the latter group, and I would guess that if you were a Romanista (just a hypothetical), you’d be with the anti-Riise camp. It’s just a difference of how we view the game and the culture associated with it. I’m not making a judgment either way; I’m just sayin’ it boils down to philosophy.
There are very few calcio topics that I see in black and white, but I’m sure that some of them will come out in my blog posts… and who knows – maybe we’ll actually see eye-to-eye on them.
MAD, we need to get you a blog on here and let you show us how this *should be done.* I mean… since you have such low expectations of me, (i.e. “More attacks. More unsubstantiated rumors. More lies spread as truth. More insults to the fans. More ‘funny’ pictures. More fanaticism. More updates on the hairstyles of players as if it matters.”) perhaps you can provide some insight in terms of what I *should* be shooting for. In the meantime, just know that I’ve never thrown any personal insults YOUR way, and I’d appreciate it if you’d reciprocate.
And Johonna, somebody definitely needs to get on Siena, as they’re an interesting team that can really surprise. If you look at their results from last season, they were all over the place: holding Milan and Inter, beating Roma and Fiorentina, and then getting blown out by Reggina… playing them is like playing the lottery!
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“You know what, maybe certain roma fans do troll onto the inter blog “on average once every two weeks”
–There’s one on there recently that has @ forty personal attacks against me and others. And by his own admission he’s only been here about a month and a half. And you know what. I haven’t even put a dent on balancing the books yet.
“… but lets take a look at a little of your recent history…”
–I could go though these one by one but I won’t. I’ll take it in groups:
Udinese Blog. A romanista has taken over the blog of another team. I gave my opinion of what I can expect having read the bloggers work and the comments he has posted, including an admission that he is going to be posting shit about us and Inter. You obviously don’t like my opinion. That’s great. I could care less.
Chievo Blog: This joker has about (and I’m probably lowballing it) forty personal attacks on me and others on the Inter boards where his count goes up daily (there are some there from two days ago and today actually). The way I see it, I haven’t even put a dent in evening the accounts yet.
Serie A blog: I was complimenting the current poster because the one before treated the Serie A blog as Roma Blog 1A and his specialty was insulting Inter and Lazio fans on it. I don’t see how this is trolling, but whatever.
Roma blog: This one is the best yet. These guys go after us hammer and tongs on the Inter blog all the time and repeatedly. Oh, and they say much worse things to us than what you have me quoted as saying.
Fiorentina Blog: This is a two parter. Part one- I was asking them their opinion of the possible Mutu transfer. The Roma people showed up and went nuts there and on the Inter board– again. Part Two I was attacked by a Roma poster on another board, retaliated there and on the Fiorentina blog where he was also posting. This fellow actually apologized, as I did to him and I think we are okay now… but you didn’t include that in your little expose, did you?
“I mean i really dont understand what your crusade against roma and the romanista on this board…”
– In every instance I was attacked first. In every instance I returned exactly what I was given. Even though you copied my posts without posting what I was replying to, in order to show me in a bad light this isn’t something that Romanista hasn’t done to me before. So this is old news.
“i must deem your hypothesis regarding my hypocratic statements incorrect.”
–Here’s what I saw.
Samson wrote: Gianfranco = Ignorant–I have yet to see your condemnation of what Samson wrote to Gianfranco. But you are busting the hell out of me for a negative opinion about vin that I was writing to someone that wasn’t you. You decided to stick your nose into this and make it personal with me. I didn’t start this… again. So, why haven’t you chastised, if that’s what you feel is your role on this earth, Samson.
–Reason- you probably agree with him. And make no mistake, I am not defending Gian, he can do perfectly well for himself. But busting me and not busting Samson, is hypocritical, in my opinion.
“And yes MAD you have every right to say whatever you want, and im not trying to control what you say, but there is such a thing as common courtesy and i think the world would be a lot better off if it was practiced a little more often.”
–I practice it to those that practice it with me. I am polite on the Juventus boards. I am polite on the Milan boards. I am polite on the Fiorentina boards when Roma people aren’t attacking me. I am polite on the Palermo boards. I am polite on the Lecce boards. I am polite on the Serie A boards now that I am not being insulted.
–I do not see it as my job to police anyone, or make the world a better place, but I will not take any bullshit from anyone either. And I don’t.
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“MAD, we need to get you a blog on here and let you show us how this *should be done.* I mean… since you have such low expectations of me, (i.e. “More attacks. More unsubstantiated rumors. More lies spread as truth. More insults to the fans. More ‘funny’ pictures. More fanaticism. More updates on the hairstyles of players as if it matters.”)”
–Yeah, I mean, I have only been getting shit from Roma people for about five months straight now, there is absolutely no reason for me to expect any more, is there? I mean the Serie A blog and the National team blog were all written by a Romanista and they were all anti-Inter biased… just like you said you were going to be. There were all filled with Roma people insulting us and trying to instigate shit and attacking us as we were posting on our own blog. Just like there is here already.
–No, you’re right. There is no reason for me to expect the worst, huh?
“…perhaps you can provide some insight in terms of what I *should* be shooting for. In the meantime, just know that I’ve never thrown any personal insults YOUR way, and I’d appreciate it if you’d reciprocate.”
–Write what you want, if that’s what you want to do. I don’t care, I will do the same, however.
–And as far as the insults go… I haven’t made any either, other than I think that you’re a Roma fanboy. Isn’t that what you are? Do you find that insulting? I have given my opinion of what I think is to come. And I will continue to do so.
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I am going to expand on this more:
“I mean i really dont understand what your crusade against roma and the romanista on this board…”
– In every instance I was attacked first. In every instance I returned exactly what I was given. Even though you copied my posts without posting what I was replying to, in order to show me in a bad light. This isn’t something that Romanista hasn’t done to me before. So this is old news.
–All I did here was post an opinion that I don’t think that this guy will do a good job. You don’t like the way I said it. That’s your problem. I can voice my opinion any way I want to. If you want to bring up my history of posting, at least be intellectually honest about it and post the context. Instead of just running a smear campaign, why don’t you follow your own advice and have some common courtesy yourself. Or would that be too much like *not* being a hypocrite.
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“Udinese Blog. A romanista has taken over the blog of another team. I gave my opinion of what I can expect having read the bloggers work and the comments he has posted, including an admission that he is going to be posting shit about us and Inter. You obviously don’t like my opinion. That’s great. I could care less.”
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MAD, it’s not about “us [whomever 'us' is] and Inter.”
My criticisms are just about Inter.Truthfully, I couldn’t care less about Inter’s fans unless they’re launching personal attacks. In fact, I challenge you to find even one instance where I’ve mentioned Inter’s fans in a negative light. You won’t, because those instances don’t exist.
It’s Inter THE CLUB that irritates me, and here’s why:
-They’ve finished on top for three *consecutive* seasons now, and I’d like to see someone else up there for once. I don’t expect an Inter fan to understand this, but if you imagine another club occupying the top spot for thee consecutive terms, perhaps you can have an idea of where I’m coming from. Anyway, It makes sense to go after the top team, does it not?
-They’ll win even if they’re having an abysmal match. Even as an Inter fan, you must see how this is frustrating to watch. Note that I am not accusing Inter of cheating; I will however say that they’ve had more than their fair share of luck, and I don’t think luck should win matches.
-Can they maybe start some more Italians? I understand the “International” origin of the squad, but there were many times last season where Matrix was the only Italian Black/Blue on the field, and there were many other matches where there were no Italians at all in the starting XI. I mean… they DO play in the Italian domestic league, so it would be nice if they’d incorporate a few Italians into the group for the greater good of Italian soccer. And for the record (before anyone points it out), I acknowledge and am not thrilled with the numbers of non-Italians on Roma, Milan, and a few other squads, but at least those squads manage to work a few Italians into their starting XI. Also, I do not like to see English teams that don’t start any Englishmen, German teams that don’t start Germans, etc. You get the idea. If there’s any chance of a squad competing in UEFA / CL, and they’re going to represent a club from a given country, it would be nice if they actually had a good number of players from that country. A few players from other countries can add much-valued variety, but when you’re starting *zero* domestic players, I see that as a problem.
There you have it. For me, it’s about the team. Not you or the other tifosi. Sorry if that’s disappoints you.
And if you don’t think that I’m going to do a good job, or if you have a problem with a Roma supporter covering another team, that’s unfortunate. Hopefully, I’ll do a decent enough job for you. Anyway, by my count, there are five other squads’ blogs open, so maybe you, or another Inter supporter can take them. In fact, I’d encourage you to do so, because I’d rather not read any more complaints if another Roma supporter requests one of them. Go ahead… Atalanta and Siena look pretty good, right?
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vin, “us” are the Inter supporters. I obviously disagree point by point with you regarding your opinions of the club, but that’s neither here nor there.
We’ll see how far we get regarding remarks about the tifosi. I would be disappointed if you end up like the others, but but I would expect it. It would be a pleasant surprise not to be insulted on a near daily basis by some Roma supporter using their big platform. Or their followers.
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just the fact that this comment section has escalated into such a sissy slapfight shows that this site as a whole is grasping at straws if theyve devolved to this. what a joke.
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See, I understand that “Inter Merda” is like a nervous tick around here. I get it, everyone else hates the team. No Italians… I get it. What doesnt make any sense to me is your first argument. As I have often said, if you are going to hat a team for winning, have Juve! Inter hardly ever win anything. Sure, we have had a good run, but come on… the 1990s, anyone here remember that? This is our first moment in the sun since like 1968! You can hate us for a lot of things (crazy owner, no Italians…), but because we have won for 2 years in a row (the one we got as a gift should not be held against us) is just plain mean.
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and that is hate. I cannot even begin to imagine how a person could “hat” a team.
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we’re just waiting for the calcio to actually start back up, matt. we’re bored as hell
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Ugh… I tried to respond to Johonna and matt from work, but my comments were held up in spamland because I wasn’t logged in as an author/admin/whatever.
Anyway, to matt, I basically said that emotions run high in calcio, so there are bound to be tempers and harsh words… and as suseiseki implied, we’re a little short on *actual news* at the moment.
As for my response to Johonna, I basically said that the ‘no Italians’ aspect of Inter is by far the biggest gripe I have with the team. As for the other reason I gave (the one that she said made no sense to her), I said that Inter was on top for a big percentage of the last two seasons, and even though that may have been their first ascent since back in the day, it’s fresh on my mind *now* and doesn’t quite register in my head as making up for years in the middle of the table. To me, they’re the top kids, so that’s who everyone else needs to try to knock down.
I think I’m going to post something quick tonight, just to say a few words about Inler.
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You calcio boys/girls sure dont get along do you. Inter hating is just part of life, live with it. Its not like my team, Real Madrid, doesnt get its fair amount of shit from people everyday. Goodluck Vin, many people believe the point of a blogger is to be ripped to shreads whenever he/she opens their mouth about anything.
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“They’ve finished on top for three *consecutive* seasons now, and I’d like to see someone else up there for once. I don’t expect an Inter fan to understand this, but if you imagine another club occupying the top spot for thee consecutive terms, perhaps you can have an idea of where I’m coming from. Anyway, It makes sense to go after the top team, does it not?
If Roma won for 3 consecituve seasons, would you want to see someone else at the top? NO, you wouldn’t.
THis entire fucking site has gone down the fucking drain. IT IS ALL ROMA BIASED AND INTER HATRED. (Even ask a non-Inter supporter.) There is no real clacio talk on this stupid fucking site anymore. All the talk is “Totti” (Who never won anything, and “DDR” (Who needs to practice those PK’s along with Di Natale.)
There are other fans on this site besides Roma fans, but, honestly, MOST OF YOU, make debating impossible.
Case in point. Gianfranco stated his feeling on having a “second team”, and in typical stupid fucking Roma fan style, Samson replied, “Gianfranco = ignorant”.
Not sure why this site is biased towards a team that hasn’t done shit expect finish second a few times. But, it’s ok. The hate I may recieve back does not change the standings, or take away from the trophey cabinet…..
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“If there’s going to be any bias here, it’ll be anti-Inter bias…”
Why don’t you just report the Udinese news and notes as an UDINESE BLOGGER should do? Instead of bashing Inter. It makes no sense really. How does another team affect the news of Udinese……
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One more thing.
If you will do some “Inter bashing”, I will do some “Inter LOVING”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5S-uCXDaoA
You can bullshit and hate all you want, but the STANDINGS and TROPHIES never lie.
Good luck with your blog.
FORZA INTER SEMPRE….
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Antonio, thanks for coming in here all angry, and ending with “Good luck with your blog.” It was a nice twist.
Now, regarding this comment:
“Why don’t you just report the Udinese news and notes as an UDINESE BLOGGER should do? Instead of bashing Inter. It makes no sense really. How does another team affect the news of Udinese……”
First off, by definition, a blog is more than just a place where ‘news and notes’ are posted; it is SUPPOSED to contain opinion and analysis as well (like an editorial, if you will). That said, if a team truly gets under my skin, I can mention it… and if someone questions my opinions, I can respond, which is what I’ve done in this comments section. So basically, what I’m saying is, I haven’t done or said anything out of the intended scope of this blog – whatsoever. And as for how other teams affect Udinese… um… believe it or not, Udinese PLAYS these other teams. When that happens, I’d say that discussing the other team is completely relevant.As I said to MAD, if you feel as though there are too many Roma supporters writing on this site, why not balance things out a bit? There *ARE* a few teams left for you to scoop up.
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